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might vote next week to raise the debt ceiling for even three months. there is a very muted reaction and what to watch here are how people are buying etfs. this is the s&p 500. you can buy it in a single stock and you might say, oh, gee, there is a move there to the far right on the upside when the announcement came. but it is a very, very narrow amplitude. very narrow range of trading. that's about three points on the s&p 500. the volume did pick up and we will have volume towards the heavy side today. if you think that is good news pushing the debt ceiling out for stocks and i think generally would you look at it as good news, it certainly is fairly muted here. as for the major indices for the week, what simon was just talking about, there are deeper cyclical changes. big industrial names have been generally outperforming and that is very good news, if you think the global economy, those stocks would more closer would the global economy. >> you get this, this real tight hugging of the flat line friday. monday, tuesday, wednesday and then again today.
might vote next week to raise the debt ceiling for even three months. there is a very muted reaction and what to watch here are how people are buying etfs. this is the s&p 500. you can buy it in a single stock and you might say, oh, gee, there is a move there to the far right on the upside when the announcement came. but it is a very, very narrow amplitude. very narrow range of trading. that's about three points on the s&p 500. the volume did pick up and we will have volume towards the...
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but i think at the end of the day, the deal made is a debt ceiling increase. but republicans will go through with those sequester cuts. >> yeah. if i could just come. jump in real quick. brian, bandy, jumping 06 of what jimmy had to say here, let's not forget, defaulting on the principle and interest obligation says separate conversation from defaulting on things to other people. say, sending out social security checks. in the context of quote unquote, defaulting on our debt, i'm with jimmy p. as well. missing an interest payment, a very low probability. >> that where some of the confusion seems to be, steve. exact lit public understanding. that why we are here at cnbc to what the risk really is. is someone not going to get their social security check? is the post office not going to be paid? what would happen first? >> brian, a lot of people don't understand because it is complicated. neither side of this depate want you to understand the reality here. on the one hand, the administration wants you to -- doesn't want you to know there are two options here. def
but i think at the end of the day, the deal made is a debt ceiling increase. but republicans will go through with those sequester cuts. >> yeah. if i could just come. jump in real quick. brian, bandy, jumping 06 of what jimmy had to say here, let's not forget, defaulting on the principle and interest obligation says separate conversation from defaulting on things to other people. say, sending out social security checks. in the context of quote unquote, defaulting on our debt, i'm with...
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on the debt ceiling yet. we have no idea what sequestration would mean. apple is leading the market. actually gotten killed. all of these things would be told and needed to be in place in order for the market to go up and are not. i think the story here is very low expectations and investors looking at that three-year number, five-year number and saying the market is way more hospitable than i thought it would be and i need to do something different than what i've been doing all this time. >> all right. rick santelli, your take on this day. your landscape is bigger than just equities. treasury yields have been ticking up. currencies are going higher against the dollar and oil is going higher. what do you make of what's going on today? >> well, one thing just said that has a common denominator with all of those, of course, is liquefying and central bank activity whether it's bank of japan, europe, we see interest rates are up. went from 180 to testing 190. the bund violated 160, hasn't done that for a while. e
on the debt ceiling yet. we have no idea what sequestration would mean. apple is leading the market. actually gotten killed. all of these things would be told and needed to be in place in order for the market to go up and are not. i think the story here is very low expectations and investors looking at that three-year number, five-year number and saying the market is way more hospitable than i thought it would be and i need to do something different than what i've been doing all this time....
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everyone i talk to is saying i'll deal with the debt ceiling when i get there. actually, if there was a lot on worry there, we wouldn't be going, budding up against 5 1/2 year lows. clearly, people are not paying as much attention to it right now and now we have the gun thing going on out of washington, d.c. so even the people in washington themselves are putting it almost on the back burner for another few weeks. once a week or so, you get an easy statement out of somebody. but i think overall, the market is trading like the market should off the things that matter to the market. the debt ceiling will be a short lift. >> i word when the average person gets engaged again. i wonder how many individuals at home are saying, hon fee, we own some united healthcare. we've been buying it because of obama care and we know everybody is going to be added somehow to be covered. i just don't see that type of interest to -- it's professionals that are trading the market. it's not -- individuals are still not in. >> i agree with you to a point. >> you say something about appl
everyone i talk to is saying i'll deal with the debt ceiling when i get there. actually, if there was a lot on worry there, we wouldn't be going, budding up against 5 1/2 year lows. clearly, people are not paying as much attention to it right now and now we have the gun thing going on out of washington, d.c. so even the people in washington themselves are putting it almost on the back burner for another few weeks. once a week or so, you get an easy statement out of somebody. but i think...
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>> what it might have been had there not be crisis after crisis dealing with the debt ceiling. >> you said last night, you've got to put on a yogi bear costume to make sense of it. >> returning a lot to shareholders. >> one wonders. >> $12 million they're talking about. >> they have been increasing, of course, ever since the huge cuts that had to take place. what is it going to be now, four years ago, right? >> that period, $6. >> yeah. >> march of '09. amazing, coming up on the four-year anniversary. >> do you ever worry about your paycheck? >> yeah. i think you worry about money you had in any bank account or anything. sure. ge was to cushifocused in the ff '08, that was the moment where it could all come to -- >> that was after the ge bailout. >> sorry, not to revisit the -- >> we have to remind people where we came from. tim geithner leaving, david faber is worried about his paycheck. >> speaking of paychecks, let's talk morgan stanley. wall street firm reporting fourth quarter earnings 45 earlier on squawk, james gorman said his firm is poised to improved market environment. whic
>> what it might have been had there not be crisis after crisis dealing with the debt ceiling. >> you said last night, you've got to put on a yogi bear costume to make sense of it. >> returning a lot to shareholders. >> one wonders. >> $12 million they're talking about. >> they have been increasing, of course, ever since the huge cuts that had to take place. what is it going to be now, four years ago, right? >> that period, $6. >> yeah. >>...
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that were contingent upon or in the context of raising the debt ceiling. you yourself four times have done that. three times those were related to deficit reduction or budget maneuvers. what chuck and i and i think many people about are this new adamant desire on your part not to negotiate when they seems to conflict with the entire history in the modern era of american presidents on the debt ceiling and your own history and the debt ceiling and doesn't that suggest that we are going to go into a default situation because no one is talking to each other about how to resolve this? >> no, major. i think if you look at the history geing votes for the debt ceiling are always difficult and budgets in this town are always difficult. i went through this just last year. what's different is we never saw a situation as we saw last year in which certain groups in congress took such an absolutist position. that we came within a few days of defaulting. the fact of the matter is, that we have never seen the debt ceiling used in this fashion, where the notion was, you kn
that were contingent upon or in the context of raising the debt ceiling. you yourself four times have done that. three times those were related to deficit reduction or budget maneuvers. what chuck and i and i think many people about are this new adamant desire on your part not to negotiate when they seems to conflict with the entire history in the modern era of american presidents on the debt ceiling and your own history and the debt ceiling and doesn't that suggest that we are going to go into...
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he seems to have been a force forex tending debt ceiling in order to gain some time to negotiate. i think all of that argues in favor of some time to get the right things done. >> chuck gabriel, how did you read or hear the president's passage where he talked about medicare and social security and he said the commitments we make to each other through medicare, medicaid, social security, these things do not zap our initiative, they strengthen it. they do not make us a nation of takers, they free us and make this country great. that felt to me like a bit of a stake in the ground by the president. >> yeah. you know, the president last week cast doubt on whether republicans believe in the principles and functions of social security and medicare, etc. so in some respects i think this is kind of a new, improved version of what president clinton did when he was facing a republican congress. he was talking about family values back in the '90s. he said i want a government that values families. and as the president said, we don't need to relitigate this today, but we need a government that
he seems to have been a force forex tending debt ceiling in order to gain some time to negotiate. i think all of that argues in favor of some time to get the right things done. >> chuck gabriel, how did you read or hear the president's passage where he talked about medicare and social security and he said the commitments we make to each other through medicare, medicaid, social security, these things do not zap our initiative, they strengthen it. they do not make us a nation of takers,...
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ceiling which tends to be popular. people -- you know, the american public, they hear debt ceiling and they think no, let's not do that. that sounds awful to give government more money to spend. he's trying to turn it around. but it absolutely is a dynamic that he exemplploited when he w senator. >> robert costa, let's look at this for a minute. republicans have a tricky situation. because the country does not want us to default. and this whole business of managing accounts and prioritizing, there's 80 million payment accounts. i know the interest on the debt will be paid, but to some extent the gop has got to watch itself, robert. they could come really at the wrong end of a massive public relations blunder. >> that's exactly right, larry. the president's press conference today really was first battle in this public relations war. what matters is that the president is out there for an hour, making his case to the american people. what the republicans need to do a better job is making their case. now, it's easy to poin
ceiling which tends to be popular. people -- you know, the american public, they hear debt ceiling and they think no, let's not do that. that sounds awful to give government more money to spend. he's trying to turn it around. but it absolutely is a dynamic that he exemplploited when he w senator. >> robert costa, let's look at this for a minute. republicans have a tricky situation. because the country does not want us to default. and this whole business of managing accounts and...
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. >> now the debt ceiling and then it's sequester and the continuing resolution. we go from this cliff to that cliff, and we don't deal with the problem. if we deal with the problem, there's so many assets in america. we can grow our way out of this. >> let me ask you about getting out of a problem and for many it's regular laying. after the 2008 upset, the banking sector has faced much higher regulation. things are changing quite a bit. we're no longer riding a wave of deregulation, quite the opposite. talk to us about the regulatory environment and how you see it. >> clearly regulations increased. we have dodd/frank with, you know, thousands of pages. let's be honest about it. there were some bad actors prior to 2008. i'm all in favor of good solid regulation with regulators who have real teeth and can make things happen. what i don't want to have happen is excessive regulation that stands in the way of us serving our customers. i mean -- >> what's excess? what's one rule that you think is excess? >> i don't know what it's going to look like but look at volcker.
. >> now the debt ceiling and then it's sequester and the continuing resolution. we go from this cliff to that cliff, and we don't deal with the problem. if we deal with the problem, there's so many assets in america. we can grow our way out of this. >> let me ask you about getting out of a problem and for many it's regular laying. after the 2008 upset, the banking sector has faced much higher regulation. things are changing quite a bit. we're no longer riding a wave of...
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there's been three or four deficit deals reached during debt ceiling negotiations. that's what they've been used for in the past. in fact, you voted no on raising the debt ceiling in 2006, and some other things. and then to see him actually, he looked shocked that his loyal cadre of acolytes that someone would actually broach the subject that, you know, that he actually had a tough time answering. >> i think it shows the position he's in, though. he gets attacked from the right and the left. >> he doesn't get attack. the questions i want asked are never asked of him anywhere. >> he should come on "squawk." >> that's not going to happen. >> i'll get out. is that possible? >> no. >> i had a story but we'll talk about that one later. >> what's your story? >> we'll do it later in the broadcast. >> about nerds? >> what else would it be about? you want me to talk to here? i'm going to talk to here. coming up this morning's top stories, plus we're going to hop behind the wheel with nissan ceo carlos ghosn at the detroit auto show. first check this out, double the guest hos
there's been three or four deficit deals reached during debt ceiling negotiations. that's what they've been used for in the past. in fact, you voted no on raising the debt ceiling in 2006, and some other things. and then to see him actually, he looked shocked that his loyal cadre of acolytes that someone would actually broach the subject that, you know, that he actually had a tough time answering. >> i think it shows the position he's in, though. he gets attacked from the right and the...
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. >> the debt ceiling is still around. >> easily, though. >> the debt ceiling is still around. you are still dealing with that and, of course, the sequester issue. there are a lot of questions about what happens. we're speccing to run into that debt ceiling sometime between february 15th and march 1st. in the meantime, let's talk about corporate news. aig is suiciding maiden lane over lawsuit rights. it's the federal vehicle created during aig's bailout. at issue is whether the insurer transferred its rights to sue for losses that it incurred on its troubled bonds when it sold $2 billion in securities to the fed in 20308. aig is preserving its right to sue the federal government and other debts. >> fed chairman ben bernanke is going to speak and answer questions at the university of michigan. in d.c., president obama is said to be forging ahead on a wide ranging plan to overhaul the immigration plan this year. this includes a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants already in the country. immigrants would have to pay fines and back taxes. it would require businesses to veri
. >> the debt ceiling is still around. >> easily, though. >> the debt ceiling is still around. you are still dealing with that and, of course, the sequester issue. there are a lot of questions about what happens. we're speccing to run into that debt ceiling sometime between february 15th and march 1st. in the meantime, let's talk about corporate news. aig is suiciding maiden lane over lawsuit rights. it's the federal vehicle created during aig's bailout. at issue is whether...
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you pay your debts first and then you deal with other spending. the president's tried to turn that upside down by saying he would cancel the debt. he can't do it. he won't do it. he's lying when he says that's what he will do. i think we have a conversation over the next two months reminding the american people that we will pay our debts but we won't pay obama's crazy overspending. >> the people are in charge. whether it's jack lew or tim geithner if you remember what happened at the end of 2011, it was an issue where you're going to be watching on tv that the soldiers that protect our freedom, are they going to get their check? soldiers that came back wounded from the first gulf war, are they going to get their check? that is going to be the issue on the front page, grover, is it not? >> and august of 2011 we had all the same screaming. i did all the television shows where people said taxpayers are causing the problems. i said the president is. we won, he lost. we got the spending cuts which he's trying to fight still but he got his debt ceiling
you pay your debts first and then you deal with other spending. the president's tried to turn that upside down by saying he would cancel the debt. he can't do it. he won't do it. he's lying when he says that's what he will do. i think we have a conversation over the next two months reminding the american people that we will pay our debts but we won't pay obama's crazy overspending. >> the people are in charge. whether it's jack lew or tim geithner if you remember what happened at the end...
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that we did, were those occurring at the same time as debt ceiling raises? >> they all do. >> we've heard that that -- i'm not going to accept that, not going to do it, not the way it's done. we're not a banana republic. how many can you recall, deficit deals were affected? it's something that's done, is it not? >> standard operating procedure. we all learned about the power of the purse of democracy. back then, it used to be taxes because they couldn't borrow. now, you can borrow. taxes aren't the only strains what government can spend. the parliament and congress has to be able to control the borrowing level. that's government 101. >> is zit in g-- dis in geingeny we've already been to the restaurant and trying to stiff the bill? it wasn't the $800 stimulus or any of the things the president's done, it's congress? >> first, you're raising debt limits to cover future spending. fact one is the money hasn't been spent yet. that's not true. >> it's sort of disassembling. >> that's a good word for it. the second fact is congress hasn't approved the money. no co
that we did, were those occurring at the same time as debt ceiling raises? >> they all do. >> we've heard that that -- i'm not going to accept that, not going to do it, not the way it's done. we're not a banana republic. how many can you recall, deficit deals were affected? it's something that's done, is it not? >> standard operating procedure. we all learned about the power of the purse of democracy. back then, it used to be taxes because they couldn't borrow. now, you can...
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really is story is about growth just like with our debt ceiling. it's not about how you go about the messiness to fix it. it really should be about the debt ceiling itself. i'm sure the germans are particular. they had a good 2012. i expect these numbers to go up a bit. i look at german manufacturers like mercedes benz, vovolkswage. japanese exporters like nissan, toyota. i think the battlefield first and foremost is going to be on the war side on the export side. remember, japan achbd germany, the percentive of their exporting that figures into their total economy is so much larger, for example, than the u.s. our numbers are reasonable and our growth is substantial. we went from 1 trillion to basically 1.5 trillion. the point is they are great trades out there. the traders op these floor now have more spread on currency cross charts in their folios to get ready to strat jaegize. there's a lot of hedging. this is something to watch. when the 2012 figures come out we are going to look at them apd we're going to try to gauge exactly how much of a for
really is story is about growth just like with our debt ceiling. it's not about how you go about the messiness to fix it. it really should be about the debt ceiling itself. i'm sure the germans are particular. they had a good 2012. i expect these numbers to go up a bit. i look at german manufacturers like mercedes benz, vovolkswage. japanese exporters like nissan, toyota. i think the battlefield first and foremost is going to be on the war side on the export side. remember, japan achbd germany,...
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>> i think if they want to go with a clean debt ceiling race, he has to mike a final resolution. the public, not the republicans, the public wants spending cuts. he needs to go along with sequestration and find ways to cut government, shows that republicans are doing anything. boehner is a survivor, not really a leader. >> we'll have more after this break on the two presidents. what are the president's biggest challenges he faces going into this second term? stay with us. at 1:45, the aflac duck was brought in with multiple lacerations to the wing and a fractured beak. surgery was successful, but he will be in a cast until it is fully healed, possibly several months. so, if the duck isn't able to work, how will he pay for his living expenses? aflac. like his rent and car payments? aflac. what about gas and groceries? aflac. cell phone? aflac, but i doubt he'll be using his phone for quite a while cause like i said, he has a fractured beak. [ male announcer ] send the aflac duck a get-well card at getwellduck.com. ya. alright, another one just like that. right in the old bucket. g
>> i think if they want to go with a clean debt ceiling race, he has to mike a final resolution. the public, not the republicans, the public wants spending cuts. he needs to go along with sequestration and find ways to cut government, shows that republicans are doing anything. boehner is a survivor, not really a leader. >> we'll have more after this break on the two presidents. what are the president's biggest challenges he faces going into this second term? stay with us. at 1:45,...
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with the debt ceiling. and finally, we're told that the president will push to get the public engaged, engaged in their community, engaged in the issues to put pressure on congress to move the president's initiatives forward, john. this is seen as sort of the stage one or the act one, part two will be the president's state of the union address where he'll add more details to his proposals. >> you split it into acts there, dan, appropriate because we saw the president today, the swearing-in ceremony, but because this is a sunday, we saw him only briefly in the blue room. how has he been spending the rest of the day, and what are his plans for this evening? >> reporter: this evening within this hour, the president will be heading to the building museum for a candlelight reception there. he will be making remarks, but much of the day, you know, was quite busy earlier in the day, then had some down time. the president's still working on his speech. we're told that he's in the final stages. he did a lot of it on
with the debt ceiling. and finally, we're told that the president will push to get the public engaged, engaged in their community, engaged in the issues to put pressure on congress to move the president's initiatives forward, john. this is seen as sort of the stage one or the act one, part two will be the president's state of the union address where he'll add more details to his proposals. >> you split it into acts there, dan, appropriate because we saw the president today, the...
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debt ceiling issue, and also immigration reform. something that the president said would be a top priority. so a lot of different events for the president today. capping it off will be two balls. on official inaugural ball and the commander in chief ball taking place tonight. key folks will be taking part in ceremonies today. in particular, some hispanics playing an important role. chief justice sonja sotomayor, takie ing place on the swearing of the president. the inaugural committee has chosen a cuban american to read an original poem. cuban american civil jeer and author, richard blanco. so hispanics playing an important role on an important day in washington. john. >> a long day of firsts and a long day of celebration. dan lothian at the white house this morning. the crowd expected to turn up at the national mall, not expected to be as large as four years ago, when 1.8 million people crowded into the city. they are still expecting some 800,000 people today. nothing to thumb your nose at. christi paul on the national mall where c
debt ceiling issue, and also immigration reform. something that the president said would be a top priority. so a lot of different events for the president today. capping it off will be two balls. on official inaugural ball and the commander in chief ball taking place tonight. key folks will be taking part in ceremonies today. in particular, some hispanics playing an important role. chief justice sonja sotomayor, takie ing place on the swearing of the president. the inaugural committee has...
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ceiling fight. >> that's right. although now we're seeing some of the temperatures lower there because every was expecting for this to be during the last time out, republicans saying let's deal with this for the next three mos, deal with the longer one later. the white house encouraged -- they're encouraged by what they're hearing but clearly it's not going to be easy. but certainly i think not as contentious as we were thinking in the short term. >> we'll see how that relationship develops if at all or e vovls throughout the next term. dan, thanks very much. john has some of the other headlines this hour. >>> including the manti te'o story. twists and turns if that mysterious case of the notre dame linebacker and his fictitious girlfriend. notre dame linebacker says he was the victim of a cruel hoax. he spoke off kacamera with espn jeremy schaap and said as recently as last wednesday he believed his girlfriend was real person even know he never met her. schaap says he seemed believable and sincere throughout the in
ceiling fight. >> that's right. although now we're seeing some of the temperatures lower there because every was expecting for this to be during the last time out, republicans saying let's deal with this for the next three mos, deal with the longer one later. the white house encouraged -- they're encouraged by what they're hearing but clearly it's not going to be easy. but certainly i think not as contentious as we were thinking in the short term. >> we'll see how that relationship...
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how do you square that with this very specific debt ceiling problem that we have, that we have financial obligations that we've already made that need to be paid and we have a second debate going on about how we should spend our money? >> basically, ali, we have 100% leveraged. $16.5 trillion in debt. if we continue to borrow and spend beyond our limit, we're going to compound that debt and deficit and be on an us sustainable course for us to survive. we're at a point, we need to take the one less traveled and make all the difference. we're going to have to put our talking points on and leave them outside of the room. >> yes. >> sit down at the table, prioritize our spending, act like a business person would have to act and every family member has to act and we're going to get our house in order. we don't do that, we're going to be a deader state. >> you want to get business done. you want to get a budget. can can we not separate these things out? i know there are a lot of people who take the debt ceiling off the table and increase it and you lose your leverage. republicans lose your lev
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understand that fitch is not just looking for an 11th hour debt ceiling deal that sets the table for another mini crisis down the road. the federal government hit the debt limit as you know on december 31st. the treasury is using so-called extraordinary measures to pay its bills through mid-february or early march. now, fitch predicts washington will extend the debt ceiling despite the current war of words between president obama and republicans in congress. what happens if we get downgraded? it happened before. remember 2011, when standard & poor's did it. that hit markets and the wider economy hard, but it didn't cause interest rates to increase. this time could be different, however, because the rest of the world is getting its act together. even successful businesses like ford are worried. here's what ceo alan mulally told me today. >> i think the most important thing to your point is that we come together around a solution that allows us to live within our means, to reduce our budget deficits, and also to deal with our trade deficits, and create an environment where the business
understand that fitch is not just looking for an 11th hour debt ceiling deal that sets the table for another mini crisis down the road. the federal government hit the debt limit as you know on december 31st. the treasury is using so-called extraordinary measures to pay its bills through mid-february or early march. now, fitch predicts washington will extend the debt ceiling despite the current war of words between president obama and republicans in congress. what happens if we get downgraded?...
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deal with the debt ceiling issue later, pay the bills first, and have this debate over whether or not it's a good idea, and how it's responsible to actually deal with the federal deficit? >> i think right now, in the united states of america, the people, forget about congress, forget about -- let's talk about the people, the personal financial issues here. they need to know that if they're getting unemployment or they're getting social security, unemployment, not so much, but social security, veterans benefit, small businesses, they need to know that their future is secure. that they're not all of a sudden going to get something and say, sorry, you don't get your paycheck, that they're living on. and when they start to get afraid, they stop spending money. when they stop spending money, the whole economy suffers. so why can't you just say to them, of course we're going to be raising the debt ceiling. we don't actually have a choice. take that fare out of their lives and then let's deal with the problem that they haven't been able to deal with for years now, but hopefully they'll be ab
deal with the debt ceiling issue later, pay the bills first, and have this debate over whether or not it's a good idea, and how it's responsible to actually deal with the federal deficit? >> i think right now, in the united states of america, the people, forget about congress, forget about -- let's talk about the people, the personal financial issues here. they need to know that if they're getting unemployment or they're getting social security, unemployment, not so much, but social...
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he closed the deal on the debt ceiling with mitch mcconnell. he was the spokesman for the gun initiative. these are high-profile roles that presidents don't have to give to vice presidents. this is how important joe biden has become in this administration. >> they clearly have an incredible relationship. gloria borger just spent some time with the vice president. gloria, if you can hear me, talk a little about what we're seeing right now. >> i think you're seeing vintage joe biden. this is the joe biden that those of us who have covered him for quite some time know pretty well. i mean, it's unvarnished. this is not his parade but he's kind of turning it into his parade. i think he knows, wolf, that this could be his last parade unless he does run again. he wouldn't commit to me one way or another. i think he's surely thinking about it. we were talking here about how fit joe biden is. for a man his age. when i was -- i interviewed him in the old executive office building on friday. look at him run. and that's how he walks down the hall at the ol
he closed the deal on the debt ceiling with mitch mcconnell. he was the spokesman for the gun initiative. these are high-profile roles that presidents don't have to give to vice presidents. this is how important joe biden has become in this administration. >> they clearly have an incredible relationship. gloria borger just spent some time with the vice president. gloria, if you can hear me, talk a little about what we're seeing right now. >> i think you're seeing vintage joe biden....
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we've got a debt ceiling issue that the president's going to have to deal with. there are a lot of other issues the president's going to have to deal with, immigration reform. i think the president's going to have to spend time on this whether he wants to or not. >> connie mack, nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> please tell your lovely wife we're sorry she lost all her luggage and was stuck at the airport. >> love you, honey. >> we'll get back to john berman with a look at some of the other stories ahead this morning. >>> we'll be talking about the golden globes. ben affleck didn't get nominated for an oscar, but his surprise win at the globes may be vindication. we'll have that, the other surprises, and the big snubs in a live report. >>> he's known for his role on "breaking bad," but actor steven michael casada has a new role to play, local school board member. you should know that axiron is here. the only underarm treatment for low t. that's right, the one you apply to the underarm. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can tra
we've got a debt ceiling issue that the president's going to have to deal with. there are a lot of other issues the president's going to have to deal with, immigration reform. i think the president's going to have to spend time on this whether he wants to or not. >> connie mack, nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> please tell your lovely wife we're sorry she lost all her luggage and was stuck at the airport. >> love you, honey. >> we'll get back to john berman...
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>> what we're debating or not debating is the idea that the debt ceiling in the united states is a very unusual tool, only one other country has it. and it is because what used to happen is whenever the government needed to spend money, particularly when you're in a deficit, the treasury of the united states would have to go out and issue bonds in order to get cash to pay for it. and that was just a cumber some, awkward thing to do. what they did was create this debt cerealing which meant t ce could issue bonds for chunks of money not related to every single law that was passed. it was just because it was cumbersome. it is not a debt control or spending control measure. the president used an analogy today, used many, to say this is like eating at a restaurant, having your fill and not paying the bill. if you want to discuss -- >> dine and dash. >> yes, dine and dash. we have two problems. one is we have to understand the terms of this thing. this is about increasing the treasury's ability to pay for things that have already been committed to by the government. the danger is if you have
>> what we're debating or not debating is the idea that the debt ceiling in the united states is a very unusual tool, only one other country has it. and it is because what used to happen is whenever the government needed to spend money, particularly when you're in a deficit, the treasury of the united states would have to go out and issue bonds in order to get cash to pay for it. and that was just a cumber some, awkward thing to do. what they did was create this debt cerealing which meant...
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so these massive spending cuts will coincide with another debt ceiling battle. is there anything in this debacle that we can all agree on? >> house speaker john boehner had kind of a rough week here. the at a party folks not happy with the deal that he struck >> the president was able to get the speaker to undo everything he had promised he would do >> where are you? mr. speaker, we need leadership. >> tonight i am ashamed, shame on you, mr. speaker. >> jon: republican or democrat, senator or congressman, team edward or team jacob, everyone agrees john boehner sucks. at least we can be assured that as the incoming congress votes for a new speaker of the house, it's clear what the outcome is going to be. >> john boehner won re-election as house speaker today. >> jon: oh, boy. (train whistle blowing) >> jon: welcome back to the show. listen. as you may recall, a couple months ago america was hit by two major disasters. one of them natural, hurricane sandy and one of them somewhat man made the republican majority in the house of representatives. the second of those
so these massive spending cuts will coincide with another debt ceiling battle. is there anything in this debacle that we can all agree on? >> house speaker john boehner had kind of a rough week here. the at a party folks not happy with the deal that he struck >> the president was able to get the speaker to undo everything he had promised he would do >> where are you? mr. speaker, we need leadership. >> tonight i am ashamed, shame on you, mr. speaker. >> jon:...
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with regard to the debt ceiling, here we go again. the republican party, if it goes along with this deal in my opinion ought to change its name to the caveman party and boehner and mcconnell would be the cavemen in chief, because every time we come to this debt ceiling what do the republicans do? they give in. and every amount of money that this country spends is showing it's unsustainable. we've got to reform them and get our budget in order and we've got to get our spending under control. host: lori who is one of the 65 people on facebook who has commented on this this morning says that this makes the seventh debt ceiling plays the obama's term while the democratically-controlled senate hasn't passed a budget. it seems silly -- logical to me at but he'll -- by the way, it gives an advertisement to our plans for inauguration weekend. all-day coverage. you can tune in on sunday and monday for activities monday all day starting at 7:00 a.m. and sunday for the official swearing in at the white house. again, if you want more information
with regard to the debt ceiling, here we go again. the republican party, if it goes along with this deal in my opinion ought to change its name to the caveman party and boehner and mcconnell would be the cavemen in chief, because every time we come to this debt ceiling what do the republicans do? they give in. and every amount of money that this country spends is showing it's unsustainable. we've got to reform them and get our budget in order and we've got to get our spending under control....
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with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. talk didn't come here to about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. i know we don't have unanimity in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do something. we have to act. and i hope we all agree, there is a need to respond to the carnage on our streets and in our schools. i hope we all agree that mass shootings like the one we witnessed in newtown 34 days ago cannot be continued to be tolerated. that tragedy has affected the public psyche in a way i have never seen before. the image of first graders, not only shot, but riddled w
with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. talk didn't come here to about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score,...
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with the debt ceiling? >> i hope it does not come to that but if it has to, it must. you know we can't let extremists put us in default and play chicken with a full faith and credit with the united states of america. that's what they are. when people say let's go into default. when i hear people who are elected to congress say let's go into default. i say this person is from some other planet. this person is not from this planet. the notion that we would do that boggles the mind and the good common sense of the vast majority of americans. >> what is your perspective on america's melting pot being better reflected in small towns? what would urban leaders learn from small town mayors? >> i mean -- i think we're enriched. i know i am. my kids have grown up. i tell people my kids have been in the homes of iranians, koreans, mexicans, italians, and greeks, muslims, we're enriched when we can experience other cultures and people and other perspectives. i think you're seeing the fastest growing places of immigrati
with the debt ceiling? >> i hope it does not come to that but if it has to, it must. you know we can't let extremists put us in default and play chicken with a full faith and credit with the united states of america. that's what they are. when people say let's go into default. when i hear people who are elected to congress say let's go into default. i say this person is from some other planet. this person is not from this planet. the notion that we would do that boggles the mind and the...
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with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. i know we don't have unanimity in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do something. we have to act. and i hope we all agree, there is a need to respond to the carnage on our streets and in our schools. i hope we all agree that mass shootings like the one we witnessed in newtown 34 days ago cannot be continued to be tolerated. that tragedy has affected the public psyche in a way i have never seen before. the image of first graders, not only shot, but rid
with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that...
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i am calling about the debt ceiling. yes, it does need to be raised. because we have to pay our bills. if the government is allowed to borrow money and set their circumstances, then why is the private business sector not allowed to do that? the federal reserve has been shut down as far as to the bankers, as far as the this man being able to borrow money. the industry in the united states needs money to operate on and and. we need to be able to borrow money. if his mrs. are not allowed to expand and grow, how do they expect to pay the us -- these debts down the road? get these guys out of here. they do not need to be making a lifetime commitment. they have gotten old and senile and did not even know where they are. it is a shame that our government has gone this far. it is just terrible. host: thank you for the call. if you're just joining us, or listening on c-span radio, thank you for joining us. the question we are asking is whether or not you think the president can bypass congress to raise the debt ceiling. you can join the conversation by giving u
i am calling about the debt ceiling. yes, it does need to be raised. because we have to pay our bills. if the government is allowed to borrow money and set their circumstances, then why is the private business sector not allowed to do that? the federal reserve has been shut down as far as to the bankers, as far as the this man being able to borrow money. the industry in the united states needs money to operate on and and. we need to be able to borrow money. if his mrs. are not allowed to expand...
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with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. unanimitydon't have in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do something. we have to act. and i hope we all agree, there is a need to respond to the carnage on our streets and in our schools. i hope we all agree that mass shootings like the one we witnessed in newtown 34 days ago cannot be continued to be tolerated. that tragedy has affected the public psyche in a way i have never seen before. the image of first graders, not only shot, but riddled with b
with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that...
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what we deal with is -- technically, we should have passed the debt ceiling at the beginning of the year but we were able to extend the period and the treasury says -- at least by march, sometime in march, they will need authority from congress to borrow more money. >> how are republicans in congress reacting to the comments? >> republicasns in the house side are just getting into town and they will disappear for their political retreat. senate republicans are not scheduled to be in this week. i know from following twitter and following the reaction from speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell they didn't agree with his comments and expect to pass legislation on the hosuuse side and passing legislation for the debut ceiling and the spending issue, as they see it. >> is any of this complimented by tim geithner being eager to exit his post. >> this is about the president and what he wants. jack lewis is a former office of managment and budget director and he knows these issues. and they've been through this before in summer 2011. i don't think geithner's exit effects it either way. >> david tr
what we deal with is -- technically, we should have passed the debt ceiling at the beginning of the year but we were able to extend the period and the treasury says -- at least by march, sometime in march, they will need authority from congress to borrow more money. >> how are republicans in congress reacting to the comments? >> republicasns in the house side are just getting into town and they will disappear for their political retreat. senate republicans are not scheduled to be in...
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binding votes for the debt ceiling can sometimes be complicated. in previous aspects of american history, president reagan, president h. w. bush, president clinton all signed debt reduction deals. you have done this three times. four times was related to budget maneuvers. what many people are curious about is this new madam a desire on your part not to negotiate but that seems to conflict with the modern era of presidents with the debt ceiling and your own history. does that suggest we will go into a default situation because no one is talking about how to resolve this? >> no, major. getting votes for this is always difficult. i went through this and just last year. what is different as we never saw a situation as we saw last year in which certain groups in congress took such an absolutist position that we begin within a few days of defaulting. the fact of the matter is that we have never seen the debt ceiling used in this fashion with the notion is that we might default unless we get 100% of what we want. that has not happened. as i indicated befo
binding votes for the debt ceiling can sometimes be complicated. in previous aspects of american history, president reagan, president h. w. bush, president clinton all signed debt reduction deals. you have done this three times. four times was related to budget maneuvers. what many people are curious about is this new madam a desire on your part not to negotiate but that seems to conflict with the modern era of presidents with the debt ceiling and your own history. does that suggest we will go...
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was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high- income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched underclass. we have had the biggest increases of any quality by far, and we've had the least political response of any high- income countries, so we are standing out on our own. this has been a 30-year trend of soaring in comes at the top, stagnation in the middle, and falling through the floor on the bottom, and the political system has refused to address this for 30 years. so we have reached a calamitous situation in this country, but the fact of the matter is nothing that was done at the fiscal cliff and what lies ahead most likely
was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high- income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched...
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was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high-income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched underclass. we have had the biggest increases of any quality by leastnd we've had the political response of any high- income countries, so we are standing out on our own. this has been a 30-year trend of soaring in comes at the top, stagnation in the middle, and falling through the floor on the bottom, and the political system has refused to address this for 30 years. so we have reached a calamitous situation in this country, but the fact of the matter is nothing that was done at the fiscal cliff and what lies ahead most likely will not
was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high-income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched...
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gohmert: so we had a debt ceiling bill that was undermined from the beginning, no deal was reached, sequestration, massive cuts to our national security, our national defense. would be inflicted. and massive cuts to medicare. our leaders responded to me that , gee, the democrats will never allow the cuts to medicare, the sequestration to medicare, $300 billion or so, they'll never allow that. that's why we know the supercommittee will reach an agreement. i advised them that that would not happen. there would be no agreement. of course they're willing to have $300 billion or so cut to medicare because obamacare cut $00 billion from medicare, from our seniors' care, without a single republican vote. so the only way the democrats could run a commercial last year, 2012 with any sincerity at all saying, gee, republicans are cutting medicare, would be if they prevent republicans from reaching agreement with the president, democrats, and then they'll run in in commercials in 2012 and blame republicans and say, see, they didn't reach an agreement. they wanted to cut seniors and help their rich friends. a
gohmert: so we had a debt ceiling bill that was undermined from the beginning, no deal was reached, sequestration, massive cuts to our national security, our national defense. would be inflicted. and massive cuts to medicare. our leaders responded to me that , gee, the democrats will never allow the cuts to medicare, the sequestration to medicare, $300 billion or so, they'll never allow that. that's why we know the supercommittee will reach an agreement. i advised them that that would not...
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with the debt ceiling, the need to deal with the looming she quester and the house republicans' concern that if they do anything on tax reform, that they may leave themselves up to the senate not to take action, and, therefore, they've taken an unpopular vote for no reason. why are you optimistic on tax reform? >> first of all, we have to resolve this debt can crisis in terms of -- this debt crisis in terms of sequestration and in terms of the full faith and credit of the u.s. in the next six weeks. we aren't going to accomplish tax reform in the next six weeks. so we have a deadline that i think cannot basically be moved for what we need to do. and so that will leave us adequate time to tackle the longerrer-range problems -- the longer-range problems. we're not going to accomplish tax reform in the next six weeks. but we need to, essentially, deal with the sequester, essentially find a balanced approach that's going to raise a trillion dollars or close to it. and so that's why i have some optimism, because we need to face up to the next six weeks, resolve it and then move on. >> rick?
with the debt ceiling, the need to deal with the looming she quester and the house republicans' concern that if they do anything on tax reform, that they may leave themselves up to the senate not to take action, and, therefore, they've taken an unpopular vote for no reason. why are you optimistic on tax reform? >> first of all, we have to resolve this debt can crisis in terms of -- this debt crisis in terms of sequestration and in terms of the full faith and credit of the u.s. in the next...
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with the debt ceiling, we may very well be able to meet the goal we set out to do, which is to have roughly $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and put us on that past. i didn't come here to talk about any of this important subjects today because as important as they all are today we have a mortgage and indie media call and that is how to do with the epidemic of gun violence in america. the one of the statistics better than anyone, so i'm not going to repeat it. on that score i might add ale in a credible threat of gratitude to many of you at the table as well as those of you in the room. i know we don't have unanimity and this ballroom, nor do we have any ballroom, but we all know, it wanted knowledges we have to do some gain. we have to act and i hope we all agree there's a need to respond to the carnage on our streets and in our schools. i hope we all agree that mass shootings like the one we witnessed in your newton cannot be tolerated. that tragedy in public life has affected the public safety in a way that i've never seen before. the image of first graders,
with the debt ceiling, we may very well be able to meet the goal we set out to do, which is to have roughly $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and put us on that past. i didn't come here to talk about any of this important subjects today because as important as they all are today we have a mortgage and indie media call and that is how to do with the epidemic of gun violence in america. the one of the statistics better than anyone, so i'm not going to repeat it. on that score...
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with the debt screaming and the -- ceiling and the sequesters. house republicans concerned if they do anything about tax reform. they may leave it open to the senate and not taking action and taken the vote for no reason. are you optimistic? >> first of all, i have -- we have to reself the debt crisis in terms of sequestration. and in term of the full, faith, and credit in the next six weeks. we aren't going to accomplish tax reform in the next six weeks. so we have a deadline that i think cannot be basically moved for what we need to do in the next six weeks. that will leave us adequate time to tackling the longer range problems. we're not going tackle tax reform in the next six weeks. we need to essentially deal with the sequestration, specially find a balanced approach that is going to raise a trillion dollars or close to. so that's why i have some optimism because we need to face up to the next six weeks, resolve it, and -- [inaudible] >> rick. [inaudible] by conflict -- i want to ask you about one of the big things the intiement element refo
with the debt screaming and the -- ceiling and the sequesters. house republicans concerned if they do anything about tax reform. they may leave it open to the senate and not taking action and taken the vote for no reason. are you optimistic? >> first of all, i have -- we have to reself the debt crisis in terms of sequestration. and in term of the full, faith, and credit in the next six weeks. we aren't going to accomplish tax reform in the next six weeks. so we have a deadline that i...
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at one point if you remember, the president was hoping he could get a debt ceiling deal tied to the fiscal cliff negotiation. that didn't happen. the republicans gave up that negotiation. but they're hoping that the debt ceiling raising will give them the leverage that they need to get what they want when it comes to spending cuts. the president hopes though that he can by delegitimizing this idea of having the debt ceiling as a debate, have them have no leverage going into the deficit-cutting discussion or at least a lot less leverage. >> bill: the other big topic, the only other topic actually raised at the news conference yesterday other than whether or not you elect a party, president likes to have a party. was the issue of guns where the president was not specific because he hasn't seen -- or wasn't ready to list all of the recommendations that may have come out of the biden task force. but the president did express and repeat his resolve to do something about this issue of gun violence. no doubt about that, was there? >> no. while he put off getting into the details a little bit, he
at one point if you remember, the president was hoping he could get a debt ceiling deal tied to the fiscal cliff negotiation. that didn't happen. the republicans gave up that negotiation. but they're hoping that the debt ceiling raising will give them the leverage that they need to get what they want when it comes to spending cuts. the president hopes though that he can by delegitimizing this idea of having the debt ceiling as a debate, have them have no leverage going into the deficit-cutting...
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but this is going to be a tougher vote for republicans on the debt ceiling. will he get 25 or 30. >> john: alex we have 20 second left. let me ask you some republicans are talking about another government shutdown. do they not remember howed about that came across in 2011 not to say what newt gringrich did? are they getting desperate. >> well look, some of these republicans want to send the white house a message the message is they're serious about doing this. they'll tell you that their constituents want them to send a strong message to the white house. if they don't they could risk a primary in their own strict come next year. it makes the most season to potentially force a government shutdown. >> john: good guys. michael tomasky and isaac and alex isenstadt. here a cheap, there a cheap, everywhere a cheap... you get it. so, what if instead of just a cheap choice you could make a smart choice? like, esurance for example. they were born online and built to save people money from the beginning. it's what they've always done. not just something they cheap abou
but this is going to be a tougher vote for republicans on the debt ceiling. will he get 25 or 30. >> john: alex we have 20 second left. let me ask you some republicans are talking about another government shutdown. do they not remember howed about that came across in 2011 not to say what newt gringrich did? are they getting desperate. >> well look, some of these republicans want to send the white house a message the message is they're serious about doing this. they'll tell you that...
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you and i are of the view we shouldn't have gotten into this because the debt ceiling should be part of the prior deals. >> as it was in every previous administration. >> right. >> as we know. eliot, good to visit with you this morning. talk to you again soon. >> have a good one >> bill: eliott spitzer, former governor of new york. former co- -- or host here on current tv. good friend, political commentate commentate, writes for slight, follow on twitter @eliotspitzer. [ music ] destined to take them over. ♪ ♪ the sirius xm satellite radio in the 2013 ram 1500. engineered to move heaven and earth. guts. glory. ram. the new ram 1500. motor trend's 2013 truck of the year. @Ñhd with the explosive yet reflective, jerry springer and we'll find out which one of these camera guys is a secret baby daddy. >> only on current tv. [ music ] >> this is "the bill press show." >> all right. in the next hour, evan mcmorrison turo from talking points memo in studio as a friend of bill and we'll be joined by congress woman january shakowski from illinois, talking about the government shutdown and
you and i are of the view we shouldn't have gotten into this because the debt ceiling should be part of the prior deals. >> as it was in every previous administration. >> right. >> as we know. eliot, good to visit with you this morning. talk to you again soon. >> have a good one >> bill: eliott spitzer, former governor of new york. former co- -- or host here on current tv. good friend, political commentate commentate, writes for slight, follow on twitter...
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with the debt ceiling. congressional republicans that is. and here in washington everybody gearing up for the big inauguration. meanwhile, very striking cbs/"new york times" poll out this morning revealing that the american people are overwhelmingly behind the common sense new measures to reduce gun violence unveiled this week by president obama and vice president biden, 92% of americans saying they support a universal background check. 63% support a ban on high-capacity magazines. 53% supporting a ban renewing of the ban on assault weapons. the american people are ready for action. on another front, two high-profile celebrities proving that they are nothing but big, fat liars today. lance armstrong lying about the tour de france and manti te'o lying about his girlfriend. all of that coming up right here on current tv. right have, about the "heavy hand of government" ... i want to have that conversation. let's talk about it. really? you're going to lay people off because now the government is going to help
with the debt ceiling. congressional republicans that is. and here in washington everybody gearing up for the big inauguration. meanwhile, very striking cbs/"new york times" poll out this morning revealing that the american people are overwhelmingly behind the common sense new measures to reduce gun violence unveiled this week by president obama and vice president biden, 92% of americans saying they support a universal background check. 63% support a ban on high-capacity magazines....